"It
is unlikely that we can meet our aggressive
climate goals if we eliminate nuclear power
from the table. However, there is no
future for expanded nuclear without first
addressing four key issues: public
right-to-know, security of nuclear fuel and
waste, waste storage, and
proliferation."
2008
Democratic primary debate, Las Vegas, Nevada, January 15, 2008
Tim Russert:
Senator Obama, a difference in this campaign: You voted for the
energy bill in July of 2005; Senator Clinton voted against it.
That energy bill was described by numerous publications, quote,
"The big winner: nuclear power." The secretary of energy said
this would begin a nuclear renaissance.
We
haven’t built a nuclear power plant in this country for 30 years.
There are now 17 companies that are planning to build 29 plants
based on many of the protections that were provided in that bill,
and incentives for licensee construction operating cost. Did
you realize, when you were voting for that energy bill, that it was
going to create such a renaissance of nuclear power?
Obama:
Well, the reason I voted for it was because it was the single
largest investment in clean energy - solar, wind, biodiesel - that we had ever seen. And I think it is
- we talked about this
earlier - if we are going to deal with our dependence on foreign
oil, then we’re going to have to ramp up how we're producing
energy here in the United States.
Now,
with respect to nuclear energy, what I have said is that if we could
figure out a way to provide a cost-efficient, safe way to produce
nuclear energy, and we knew how to store it effectively, then we
should pursue it because what we don’t want is to produce more
greenhouse gases. And I believe that climate change is one of the
top priorities that the next president has to pursue.
Now,
if we cannot solve those problem, then absolutely, John, we
shouldn’t build more plants. But part of what I want to do is to
create a menu of energy options, and let’s see where the science
and the technology and the entrepreneurship of the American people
take us. That's why I want
to set up a cap and trade system. We're going to cap greenhouse
gases. We're going to say to every polluter that’s sending
greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, "We’re going to charge you a
dollar - we’re going to charge you money for every unit of
greenhouse gas that you send out there." That will create a
market. It will generate billions of dollars that we can invest in
clean technology. And if nuclear
energy can’t meet the rigors of the marketplace - if it's not
efficient and if we don’t solve those problems - then that's
off the table. And I hope that we can find an energy mix that's
going to deliver us from the kinds of problems that we have right
now.
Town
hall meeting, Pahrump,
Nevada, January 13, 2008
'
"If somebody comes up with a clean coal emission strategy, then
we should use it," the senator explained. "We have a lot
of coal here. We could be the Saudi Arabia of coal, if it's clean to
use it. And my attitude is the same when it comes to nuclear
energy." He also acknowledged the necessity of nuclear
power plants. "I don't think coal or nuclear are the best
energy strategies over the long term," Obama added. "But
let's be realistic. If we took all our nuclear plants off that
table, nobody would have any energy. So we're going to have to
transition." As long as nuclear energy could be clean,
the senator said, it was a viable option to consider.
"Nuclear is bad because we don't know how to store it,"
Obama said. "And it poses security hazards. If we solve those
technical problems, if we had a failsafe way of storing the waste
and we knew it was secure, why wouldn't we want nuclear?"
' - From Pahrump Valley Times +
Obama takes a question on nuclear energy at campaign stop in Newton, Iowa, on
December 30, 2007
Question:
"So, I really really like your campaign and I identify with
almost everything within it and I'd really like to caucus for you
but I'm still concerned about your stance on nuclear power, which I
don't think that a lot of the voters present here, especially like
the younger voters, know about and I'd like you to explain that a
little bit and I know that you consider it one of your essential
components of your alternative energy plan to mitigate greenhouse
gases but I would like to know if you are truly comfortable with the
safety of nuclear power and how big a part you wanted it to play in
your alternative energy plan. And I wonder if you being a
senator from Illinois, where there is a heavy nuclear presence has
influenced your decision."
Barack Obama: "Good. Well I think it is an excellent
question and let me tell you that I start off with the premise that nuclear
energy is not optimal and so I am not a nuclear energy proponent.
It is true that Illinois has the most nuclear power plants of any
state in the country and that makes me that much more concerned
about safety issues since I have a nine year old and a six year old
daughter who live in that state. So the only nuclear
legislation that I've passed has been to make sure that the nuclear industry
has to disclose whatever they admit anything that might be
considered radioactive and share that with local and state
communities. I just did that last year. So, my general
view is is that until we can make certain that nuclear power plants
are safe, that they have solved the storage problem - because I'm
opposed to Yucca Mountain and just dumping storage in one state in
Nevada particularly since there's a potentially a earthquake fault
line there - until we solve those problems and the whole nuclear
industry can show that they can produce clean, safe energy without
enormous subsidies from the U.S. government, I don't think that's
the best option. I am much more interested in solar and wind
and bio-diesel and strategies alternative fuels that not only can
create clean energy but will also create jobs in rural communities
and areas that have been hard hit throughout Iowa and throughout
southern Illinois. What I have said is this though: there is
no perfect energy source. Everything has some problems right
now. We haven't found it yet. Now I trust in our
ingenuity...What I've said is is that I am going to launch an Apollo
project, a Manhattan project, where we invest billions of dollars in
new energy, ideas and sources and the way we're going to do it is
we're going set up a cap and trade system on power plants and
industry. Every bit of pollution and greenhouse gas that you
emit we are going to charge you money for. That will generate funds
and we will put that into research, development and assistance to
alternative energies and creating clean technologies. I have
not ruled out nuclear as part of that package but only so far as it
is clean and safe. I have the same attitude with respect to
coal. My state has a lot of coal, but I actually voted against
the Bush Clear Skies Initiative that would have reduced or weakened
the Clean Air Act because I think it's important for us to give
clean air and clean water to our kids. On the other hand, if we can
figure a way to burn coal that is clean and does not emit greenhouse
gases we should do it and so we should invest in the research to do
it but we should not sacrifice the health of the planet or the
health of our people for that. That's I think the approach I
want to take as President, emphasizing clean energy but also
recognizing that there's no one single optimal solution and we've
got to try everything to see what works."
Obama
rally in Washington, Iowa, December 21, 2007
'...
Questioner says "corporate system based
on profits, not social conscience,"
ties it to nuclear power. Obama:
"Nuclear power is not working for us
right now" because of waste disposal.
"I have not ruled out nuclear power
ever, what I have said is we should not
invest in nuclear power if we have storage
and security problems."
"Nuclear power does not emit greenhouse
gases... but we are not there (yet)."...
' Source
- John Deeth
Obama
answers questions from the Keene Sentinel Editorial Board (New
Hampshire) on November 25, 2007
Guy
MacMillan: "We've got a nuclear power plant fifteen miles from here.
It's one of the oldest in the country and it's by all accounts fallen
apart. One of its cooling towers collapsed recently. But
it has applied for a 20-year extension of its operating license and
the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is not requiring that an
independent safety assessment be made of this plant before they make
a decision and they've always decided for the plant when they ask
for these 20-year extensions or however long the extensions"
Barack
Obama: "I would reverse that policy."
MacMillan: "Good.
I heard you talk about your...you're probably the most I don't want to say
pro-nuclear power but let's say understanding of nuclear's potential - of the
Democratic candidates - and you've said that you'd like to see a safe and secure
nuclear energy but I wonder have you been keeping up with the fact that we've
got a lot of geriatric plants."
Barack Obama:
"Absolutely, and look, the NRC is a moribund and...it's a moribund
agency that needs to be revamped and it's become captive of the industries that
it regulates and I think that's a problem. It's not unique by the way to
the nuclear industry but [...] Point number one: I would make sure that there
was an independent study of the safety and how the plant is operated. More
broadly though, I think that the NRC is similar to the EPA is similar to the FCC
is similar to the FDA. We've got a whole bunch of federal agencies that
over the last seven years have been filled with cronies, have lost their sense
of mission. It's true in the justice department, the civil rights
division. You have life-long civil servants who are the most experienced
folks who ended up leaving. Part of what I want to do as President is I
want to make government cool again. I say that only partly
tongue-in-cheek. I want to be able to attract a whole new generation of
talent to go into the federal government and their charge will be make these
agencies lean, mean, make them work, weed out stuff - bureaucracy - that is
bloated and not performing a useful function. Let's restore this sense that
government can get things done...[question and answer about Yucca Mtn]...Keep in
mind, just to make sure that I'm on record in terms of my views on nuclear
power: I would describe myself as agnostic on nuclear power in the sense I'm not
somebody who says nuclear's off the table no matter what because there's no
perfect energy source and given the importance of producing carbon emissions,
nuclear should be in the mix if we can make it safe, we know how to store it, we
can make sure that it's not vulnerable to terrorist attack, it's not enhancing
proliferation. There are a whole set of questions and they may not be
solvable and if they're not solvable then I don't want to invest in it.
But if they are solvable, why not? I don't think there's anything that we
inevitably dislike about nuclear power. We just dislike the fact that it
might blow up and radiate us and kill us. That's the problem. [laughing in
room]."
2007
Democratic primary debate at the University of Nevada (Las Vegas), November
15, 2007
John
Roberts: I want to explore
the energy issue for a moment here, because
it's of particular importance to this state.
Senator Obama, the price of oil is flirting
with $100-a-barrel- mark right now, making
all the more urgent the need for alternate
fuel sources. You support nuclear
energy as a part of the plan for the future,
but there is an issue of what to do with the
waste. You are opposed to the Yucca Mountain
Nuclear Repository about 90 miles from
here. Your state uses about -- gets
about 48 percent of its power from nuclear
compared to 20 percent for most other
states, yet you are opposed to bringing
nuclear waste from other states and keeping
it in Illinois. The question is, if
not in your backyard, who's?
Obama:
Well, as I've said, I don't think it's fair
to send it to Nevada... because we're
producing it. So what have to do is
we've got to develop the storage capacity
based on sound science. Now, laboratories
like Argonne in my own home state are trying
to develop ways to safely store nuclear
waste without having to ship it across the
country and put it in somebody else's
backward. But keep in mind that I
don't think nuclear power is necessarily our
best option. It has to be part of our
energy mix. We have a genuine crisis that
has to be addressed. And as president, I
intend to address it. And here's what we
have to do. We have to, first of all,
cap greenhouse gases, because climate change
is real and it's going to impact Nevada, and
it's impacting the entire planet. That means
that we're going to have to tell polluters:
We're going to charge you money when you
send pollution into the air that's creating
climate change. That money we can then
reinvest in solar, in wind, in biodiesel, in
clean coal technology, and in superior
nuclear technology.
Wolf Blitzer:
All right, Senator, until there's some new technological breakthrough, as
you would hope and all of us would hope, where do you send the waste?
Obama: Well,
right now, it is on-site in many situations. And that is not the optimal
situation, Wolf. But don't keep on assuming that we can't do something. I
mean, this is about the third time where you said, assuming we can't do it,
what's our option?
Blitzer: Well,
until we can...
Obama: But
-- but -- but I'm running for president because I think we can do it. I
reject... I reject the notion that we can't meet our energy challenges...We can,
if we've got bold leadership in the White House that is saying we are going to
do something about climate change, we are going to develop renewable energy
sources. That's what I intend to do as president...And we shouldn't, you know,
be pessimistic about the future of America.
Blitzer: OK.
Well, I'm optimistic.
Nuclear
Energy Insight (published by Nuclear
Energy Institute),
November/December 2007
issue, survey of candidates on nuclear
energy
Obama:
"Nuclear power is one of the few
emissions-free energy sources available to
us....I am open to the use of nuclear power
production as a transition to new energy
technologies, but I think answers to a
variety of safety questions, such as how we
are going to transport and dispose of
nuclear waste safely, are required."
Letter
from Senator Obama to Senator Reid and
Chairman Boxer opposing Yucca Mountain,
October 30, 2007
"Dear
Leader Reid and Chairman Boxer:...Given the
nation's rising energy demand and the
serious problems posed by global climate
change, we need to increase the use of
carbon-free energy sources, such as solar,
wind, and geothermal energy. But we
cannot deny that nuclear power is – and
likely will remain – an important source
of electricity for many years to come.
How we deal with the dangerous byproduct of
nuclear reactors is a critical question that
has yet to be resolved. As you may
know, Illinois has 11 nuclear reactors –
more than any other state in the country.
Nuclear power provides more than 50 percent
of the electricity needs of Illinois. Where
and how we store spent nuclear fuel is an
extremely important issue for my
constituents...the time has come for the
federal government to refocus its resources
on finding more viable alternatives for the
storage of spent nuclear fuel. Among
the possible alternatives that should be
considered are finding another state willing
to serve as a permanent national repository
or creating regional storage
repositories. The federal government
should also redirect resources toward
improving the safety and security of spent
fuel at plant sites around the country until
a safe, long-term solution can be
implemented..." +
Las
Vegas Sun's survey on four Democratic candidates' positions on five national
issues, article published on October 28, 2007
Question:
All Democratic candidates oppose Yucca
Mountain, but what’s your solution to
solving the waste issue — and what’s
your stance on nuclear power?
Obama's
answer: Yucca is a bad idea. Part of
what I want to do is not just look at
storage options, but also look at what can
we bring about through technologies. I would
take $150 billion over 10 years, obtained
from charging polluters, and devote most of
that money to clean - energy initiatives and
significant research and development into
more effective, safer ways of storing
nuclear waste. If we can solve the problem,
nuclear should be part of our energy mix. If
we can’t solve it, that will cap the
degree to which we can use nuclear energy.
Londonderry,
NH, town hall meeting -Mack's Apple Orchard, October 9, 2007
Question
from audience member: "I was at the
World Conference against Atomic and Hydrogen
Bombs this summer in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
and met people who were actually there when
the bombings happened and who survived these
and the horrible atrocities that they went
through. In your speech, you talked
about securing fissionable materials for
weapons grade...now I want to know, because
there's not much difference between nuclear
power and nuclear weapons, in doing that,
and talking about your green energy and
clean energy. I really want to know if
you'll commit to not funding nuclear power
because that is not a green energy."
Obama:
"Well, I can't make that commitment and
remember I – you know, I've always, you
know, when you're a politician you're always
tempted to get some applause, but on this
one, on this one, I have to be more
qualified. Big chunks of the country
currently are getting nuclear – are
getting electricity from nuclear power. And
nuclear power has a host of problems that
have not been solved. We haven't solved the
storage situation effectively. We have not
dealt with all of the security aspects of
our nuclear power plants and nuclear power
is very expensive. Construction of nuclear
power plants is very expensive. But I can't
say in an unqualified way that we can't
develop, over time, technologies that deal
with some of these problems and maintain
nuclear power in the energy mix – peaceful
uses for nuclear technology. And so what
I've said is let's invest as part of the
overall research and development that needs
to take place – wind, solar, hydrogen,
biodiesel, geothermal, all that stuff –
that we shouldn't simply remove nuclear
power from the equation. We should invest in
new technologies to see if we can make them
more effective, but there has got to be a
high standard and a high threshold. If we
don't deal with the safety and the storage
issues then it's uneconomical and we go for
a better option. But I'm not going to just
rule it out as automatically being a
dangerous option. Because I think it can be
a reasonable option and there are a lot of
European countries that use it and use it
effectively, and use it cheaply, and have a
pretty good track record in terms of
safety."
Obama's
speech titled 'Real Leadership for a Clean Energy Future' in
Portsmouth, NH, October 08, 2007
"We
will also explore safer ways to use nuclear power, which right now
accounts for more than 70% of our non-carbon generated electricity.
We should accelerate research into technologies that will allow for
the safe, secure treatment of nuclear waste. As President, I'll
continue the work I began in the Senate to ensure that all nuclear
material is stored, secured and accounted for - both at home and
around the world. There should be no short cuts or regulatory
loopholes - period."
2007
Democratic primary debate at Dartmouth
College, September 6, 2007
Q:
Would you be in favor of developing more
nuclear power to reduce oil dependency?
A:
I don't think that we can take nuclear power
off the table. What we have to make sure of
is that we have the capacity to store waste
properly and safely, and that we reduce
whatever threats might come from terrorism.
And if we can do that in a technologically
sound way, then we should pursue it. If we
can't, we should not. But there is no magic
bullet on energy. We're going to have to
look at all the various options.
'Obama
on the Record: An interview with Barack Obama about his presidential
platform on energy and the environment' by Grist and Outside,
July 30, 2007
Question:
"As president, would you oppose subsidizing any technology that
increases global warming -- even if it reduces our dependence on
foreign oil?"
Answer:
"As a general principle I would agree with that. I would
not make huge investments or try to take technologies to scale that
worsen the climate-change situation. But it may be appropriate for
the federal government to make small investments in pilot projects
to see if we can make dirty fuels cleaner. I think that with nuclear
power, we have got to see if there are ways for us to store the
radioactive material in a safe, environmentally sound way, and if we
can do that and deal with the some of the safely and security
issues, [nuclear power] is something that we should look at. My
general view is that we should experiment with all sorts of
potential energy sources -- don't prejudge what works and what
doesn't, but insist that we have very strict standards in terms of
where we want to end up, and enforce those standards
vigorously."
2007
YouTube Democratic Primary debate,
Charleston, South Carolina
,
July 23,
2007
Q:
What about nuclear power as an alternative
energy source?
A:
I actually think that we should explore
nuclear power as part of the energy mix.
There are no silver bullets to this issue.
We have to develop solar. I have proposed
drastically increasing fuel efficiency
standards on cars, an aggressive cap on the
amount of greenhouse gases that can be
emitted. But we're going to have to try a
series of different approaches.
"Barack
Obama's Nuclear Ambitions,"
CounterPunch.com, July 4, 2007
"The
Obama campaign, as of late March 2007, has
accepted $159,800 from executives and
employees of Exelon, the nation's largest
nuclear power plant operator. The
Illinois-based company also helped Obama's
2004 senatorial campaign. As Ken Silverstein
reported in the November 2006 issue of Harper's,
'[Exelon] is Obama's fourth largest
patron, having donated a total of $74,350 to
his campaigns. During debate on the 2005
energy bill, Obama helped to vote down an
amendment that would have killed vast loan
guarantees for power-plant operators to
develop new energy projects the public will
not only pay millions of dollars in loan
costs but will risk losing billions of
dollars if the companies
default.'" (Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair07
[In
late October 2006, Senator Obama's office
issued a response
to the 2006 Harper's article (titled
'Barack Obama Inc.'), asserting that Obama's
"side of the story was not fairly
presented."
The press release noted that Obama
voted with 75 other Senators against the
Sununu amendment because it would have
eliminated loan guarantees to encourage
emerging clean-energy technologies (in
addition to nuclear energy). The Harper's
author, Ken Silverstein, quickly wrote a
counter-response.
In February 2007, Silverstein talked more
about Obama in his interview with NPR - audio.
The
most recent tally of total contributions from Exelon executives and employees to
Obama can be viewed at Opensecrets.org,
courtesy of the Center for Responsive Politics, and equaled $194,750 in Oct.
2007.]
League
of Conservation Voters 2008 candidate questionnaire, June 2007
Q:
After five decades, more than $85 billion in U.S. federal grants and subsidies,
and 100 commercial reactors deployed and operating in the U.S., nuclear power
generation is a mature energy technology controlled by multi-billion dollar
companies. These companies are fully capable of privately financing new
nuclear reactors whenever they can be economically constructed and operated with
a suitable return on investment. Do you favor continued federal government
subsidies and tax breaks to these large energy companies, or should the
government leave nuclear power to find its own way in the energy marketplace
without further subsidies?
A:
...I believe future federal support for any technology must be carefully
measured in the context of two key goals of energy security and environmental
stewardship. No technology offers a perfect answer, and no technology
should be rejected outright...The gamut of power generation technologies --
coal, nuclear, natural gas, hydropower, wind, solar, geothermal -- will continue
to play major roles in our national energy mix for the rest of our
lifetimes. The debate is to what extent will each contribute.
Outright dismissal of any of these options is not a serious policy
approach. I do believe, however, that without greater investments in
plant security and environmental safeguards, and a common-sense solution to the
issue of spent fuel storage, the future for nuclear power remains
uncertain.
New
York Sun article '2008 Candidates Show
Affinity to Atomic Energy,' published on
April 20, 2007
'Mr.
Obama's camp gave a somewhat more reserved answer when asked about
the Illinois senator's views on atomic energy. "Barack Obama
feels we must address three key issues before ramping up nuclear
power, including the public's right to know, security, and waste
storage," a campaign spokeswoman, Jennifer Psaki, said.
"Nuclear power represents the majority of non-carbon generated
electricity therefore making it unlikely that it will be taken off
the table."'
Senate
Committee comment in 2005
'At
a 2005 hearing at the Senate Committee on
Environment & Public Works,
of which Obama is a member,
the senator - echoing the nuclear industry's
current campaign to promote nuclear energy
as “green”—said that since Congress
was debating "policies to address air
quality and the deleterious effects of
carbon emissions on the global ecosystem, it is
reasonable -- and realistic -- for nuclear
power to remain on the table for
consideration."' (source: Harper's
Magazine "A Bit More on Barack",
October 2006)